Jorden
if you are an active JW and you are knowledgeable of their beliefs and if you are a honest person
Theres your problem right there. For a JW to be loyal, they have to be dishonest.
I still believe scholar might be trolling us though.
scholar and fisherman, i started this thread because i didn't want to highjack the one in regard to 588/568.. i just wanted to ask if you were both current active jw's that believe the jw's beliefs?.
do y'all believe the gb are the f&ds?
if the answers are no, then why do y'all defend so passionately the date 607?
highly recommend this video from youtube.
really well researched.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeggkcpkuve.
it has an interesting section about the un and jw's involvement and its good to actually see the un letter concerning jw membership still on the un website.
This Awakes are still online:
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101998843
Heres what my drop down menu looks like:
highly recommend this video from youtube.
really well researched.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeggkcpkuve.
it has an interesting section about the un and jw's involvement and its good to actually see the un letter concerning jw membership still on the un website.
Highly recommend this video from youtube. Really well researched.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeGgkcpkUVE
It has an interesting section about the UN and JW's involvement and its good to actually see the UN letter concerning JW membership still on the UN website. here: https://www.un.org/en/civil-society/watchtowerletter
The video shows the Awake articles that sucked up to the UN from the 90's, notably the articles from Oct and Nov 1998, which has a full page transcript of the UN declaration of human rights. Big surprise, the 1998 Awake is missing from the JW.org library. Coincidence?
is this the "great tribulation" which jesus warned he would bring upon the corrupt christian congregations worldwide, (revelation 2:22; 7:14) or is it the same 1st century g.t.
which he said would never occur again?
(matthew 24:21).
got a link for a zoom meeting and thought id share my experience about the mid-week meeting.. guessing about 100 - 120 in cong.. 50 on zoom, only 8 with cameras on - all elderly.
watching from a detached point of view it's so obvious at how it is nothing but a glorified sales meeting, all designed to promote the org.
inspirational videos about how everyone can/ should do more to help with projects, in particular how to look after the kingdom hall, complete with bar charts showing levels of achievement to aspire to.. interestingly, tonights book study is about alcohol..
Journeyman
About 50% of the congs I know of are still not coming to meetings in person, and that's definitely more than the number who are genuinely housebound or who have debilitating conditions that prevent them from attending regularly (usually no more than 10-15 people in any congregation). Of those who do attend on Zoom, hardly any turn their cameras on now.
The people that dont turn on their cameras are the same ones that trash talk and shun ex-jw's that dont buy into it anymore, yet they cant even turn on their cameras to encourage others?
For a comparison, during the pandemic, gym members logged into zoom classes, with their cameras on. All of these people couldnt wait to get back to real life classes. Now, gyms are full again, unlike kingdom halls.
got a link for a zoom meeting and thought id share my experience about the mid-week meeting.. guessing about 100 - 120 in cong.. 50 on zoom, only 8 with cameras on - all elderly.
watching from a detached point of view it's so obvious at how it is nothing but a glorified sales meeting, all designed to promote the org.
inspirational videos about how everyone can/ should do more to help with projects, in particular how to look after the kingdom hall, complete with bar charts showing levels of achievement to aspire to.. interestingly, tonights book study is about alcohol..
slimboyfat
How could you tell how many people were in the Kingdom Hall. Do they give you a view of the whole hall on the Zoom video?
No - Its just that I still know people that attend that cong so I have an idea of the usual attendance.
got a link for a zoom meeting and thought id share my experience about the mid-week meeting.. guessing about 100 - 120 in cong.. 50 on zoom, only 8 with cameras on - all elderly.
watching from a detached point of view it's so obvious at how it is nothing but a glorified sales meeting, all designed to promote the org.
inspirational videos about how everyone can/ should do more to help with projects, in particular how to look after the kingdom hall, complete with bar charts showing levels of achievement to aspire to.. interestingly, tonights book study is about alcohol..
Got a link for a zoom meeting and thought Id share my experience about the mid-week meeting.
Guessing about 100 - 120 in cong.
50 on zoom, only 8 with cameras on - all elderly.
Watching from a detached point of view it's so obvious at how it is nothing but a glorified sales meeting, all designed to promote the org.
Inspirational videos about how everyone can/ should do more to help with projects, in particular how to look after the kingdom hall, complete with bar charts showing levels of achievement to aspire to.
Interestingly, tonights book study is about alcohol.
ever since the annual meeting last october and the letter to bodies of elders stating that "exceptional young men perhaps in their early 20's could qualify for appointment as elders.." it even states this in the updated elders manual!
have any of you pimo's, pimq's, or those on here with family/friends still in hear of any young men being appointed as elders yet?
i am talking 21, 22, 23, 24 etc.
20 yr old elder goes to married couples house to provide encouragement.
Husband isnt home.
20 yr elder is seduced by hot, mature married woman
Game Over.
rev, 13:17and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
here is wisdom.
let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is 666.".
You can google vaccines and ditgital id and article will come up about it. It would appear from videos I have watched, that those who took the jabs can be tracked and monitored.
Heres an article I googled but it doesnt agree with you, does that still count?:
If you own a mobile phone, or use the internet you have been 'tracked and monitored' for years.
Looking back, these sorts of projects are what keeps a lot of JW's thinking they are part of something big and important.
They promote the idea of unpaid, volunteer work as a goal equivalent to working alongside God himself. For all the rest that cant volunteer, they will post regular updates so that everyone feels included.
When its done, they want all the JW's to make a pilgrimage and donate.